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OK this is not about games...

Тема в разделе "International Zone", создана пользователем BladeLord, 4 апр 2008.

  1. BladeLord

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    Hornet нравится это.
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  3. Hornet

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    I'm not surprised, сos I've always knew that russian(soviet) weapon is the best weapon. :spiteful:

    BTW articles is dated by 2002. So I think it is out of date now. It would be much more interesting to see somethin` actual. E.g. Su-37 vs F-22. :pilot:
     
  4. Kerokero

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    Dont you be worried, boys, the NATO agression is just beyond the corner. Soon we'll know a definite answer to this one.
     
  5. Lysen I eat supermutants!

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    Kerokero, I believe it isn't... About Sukhoi: I've heard that it has some problems developing new generation airplanes, and US is far ahead now.
     
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    Honestly, it doesnt really matter if you believe it or not, USia is a country of barbarians, and wont think twice before clubbing you, if they think they can get away with it.
     
  7. Lysen I eat supermutants!

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    US government might be really crazy, but that does not mean the whole American people gone mad.
     
  8. ZorNcoR

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    Do you call this actual? Are you going to compare those Su-35/37 "flying circus" airshow demonstrators with real active duty weapon which is F-22? What if the REAL WAR will start tomorrow? Do you think that someone will care of Su-35/37's superadvanced technical prameters and maneuverability.

    It is clear that Su-35/37 as advanced type, needs immensely huge amount of money and time to become a real full production weapon, and Russia have neither money nor time. Remember that Su-37 took off in its maiden flight in far 1996, and Su-35 in 1992 - and now is 2008(!) What advancements can we see in Su-35/37 production program - after crash of single prototype of Su-37 in 2003 all works on this type were suspended and the priority was given to Su-35 which production is planned to 2010-2011... While now USAF has a pack of fully operational and battleready FWs of F-22s.

    And today some people call Su-35/37 the "best fighter", don't make me laugh.
    First, let me see at least 50 of them sittng ready for battle at airfield, and then we'll talk.

    Here are some interesing photos showing real situation:
    All Russian advanced airpower(Su-35,Su-30s) on Research Institute AFB
    1st Fighter Wing and Air National Guard 192nd FW at Langley AFB armed with F-22


    Yes, definitely and honestly, I believe it. But the same can be said about actual Russian government. I mean that both US and Russia (for small neighbouring countries) are agressive barbarians, generally the same, with some differences in language/weapons/georgaphical position.
     
  9. VladimIr V Y Анимешник/Ретроманьяк

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    You are wrong. Russia isn't bombing anyone, using poor excuses, like fighting terrorism or destroy non-existing bio-weapons.
     
  10. Skirmish

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    Prepare for the war if you want the peace.
     
  11. BladeLord

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    Hey buds... take it easy... there will not be a war between NATO & US vs Russia, as none of them are with suicidal intentions. Let`s see, even if NATO or Russia starts with the upper hand, the other side would care nothing on starting a nuclear war and that would be the end of both... :skull:

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    Hey buds... take it easy... there will not be a war between NATO & US vs Russia, as none of them are with suicidal intentions. Let`s see, even if NATO or Russia starts with the upper hand, the other side would care nothing on starting a nuclear war and that would be the end of both... :skull:
     
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    Agretess нравится это.
  12. Skirmish

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    BladeLord, but it's necessary to have the weapon versus enemies... :rolleyes:
     
  13. ZorNcoR

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    There's no reason to be so optimistic

    BTW I haven't said a word about "bombing". You know, in modern world there are dozens means of being "ugly-agressive-barbarian" without shooting a single shot. Referring this to Russia it can be clearly seen in Moscow's support of separatist intention of so called "unrecognized republics" - Pridnestrovian Moldavian Republic, Georgian Autonomous Region Abkhazia, and who knows, maybe in future it'll be Autonomous Republic of Crimea with its 60% of ethnic russians... How should I understand this quote - "Russia will do everything to protect the rights of Russians in Abkhazia" - this is direct threat, taking to accout current not-so-good relationship between Moscow and Tbilisi it is only the matter of time when first bombs will fall. Remember my words.

    Oh my. Do you know that it is enough a SINGLE small match to make the whole forest burn? Do you know how the Great War 1914-1918 started? What was the reason? Under certain conditions, it is enough a single little cough to drive all world to hell of WW3, and I think that such conditions are turning a reality nowdays. And why everybody are so sure that in case of war between NATO and Russia there will be total nuclear apocalipse, look what a havoc reigns today in Iraq, and there was none single American nuke blasted over this country. As I've sad before, in modern world there are a lot of different ways to do seemingly the same thing, even a war.
     
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    ZorNcoR,

    Everybody have own interests and goals. The way to these goals is what really matters. USA started three pointless and bloody wars in past ten years, not to mention supporting several "orange revolutions". Russia tries it's best to complete it's goals within world's laws and regulations.

    The bombs in Georgia will fall only if Georgia itself will be an aggressor. And they will do it only if they have support from USA. So it's USA who will be guilty of any conflict there.
     
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  15. Low_Pressure Titanium Helmet of Musicianship owner

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    Sounds a bit obliquely: you mean of course United States, not us (Russia)?

    Georgia's actions look stupid. They really think that USA, there big braza will come and defend them if we start a war? But I suppose it won't happen till we have enough strength to oppose whole NATO. But then there will be no Georgia anymore.

    P.S. Whole this story with Georgia reminds me a story-line of Splinter Cell...
     
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    The States, of course. I wouldn't write "us" in capital. =)

    USA just need a sacrificial lamb to justify aggression of sime kind against Russia. Economical and political probably, since it extremely unwise(even for USA) to actually invade country with strong military and a lot of nuclear weapons.

    It is foolish to think what they care about what will become of Georgia.
     
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    VladimIr V Y, i see it clearly, strange that Georgia, it seems, don't see the same. Or, it's better to say: people of Georgia.
     
  18. ZorNcoR

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    That's it "everybody has its own interests" - and the small contries are just a little and silly puppets in big confrontation of two uncles - uncle Sam vs uncle Putin...
     
  19. Skirmish

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    Cold war is over, having accepted new forms... :rolleyes:
     
  20. ZorNcoR

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    Seriously? Do you really think so? And I think that nowdays we can clearly observe it all starting again in its ugly perfection... otherwise how can be explained those numerous reports about interceptions of russian nuclear "Bears" and "Blackjacks" appearing in close proximity near NATO countries' air space borders? All happens as in good old 80s...:spiteful: the same atmosphere, I even start liking that again...

    HERE is one of many examples...
     
  21. Skirmish

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    ZorNcoR, Russian Federation is not USSR. Soviet epoche will not return. :rtfm:
    It's very big mistake...)) - kreol
     
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